• Vincent Bach Trumpet Serial Numbers
• Selmer Bach Trumpet Serial Numbers
• Bach Strad Trumpet Serial Numbers

Vincent Bach used the trade names of Stradivarius, Mercedes, Mercury, Minerva, and Apollo. For some reason, Vincent jumped around a little on serial numbers. For example, in 1928 the Apollo serial numbers were 8600 - 8700. In 1939 the Mercury models had serial numbers in the 10,000s. The first Minerva (#2722) was built in 1958. Other Relevant Dates. 'The Selmer Company encompasses the greatest names in musical instruments-Selmer and Bach wind instruments, Ludwig and Musser percussion instruments, Glaesel and Lewis string instruments. Always committed to serving the needs of students, music educators, amateurs, and professionals, The Selmer Company has grown steadily over the years.

1. Selmer Radial Bb trumpet S/N 54,9xx is marked 75 and B on the leadpipe and measures 0.464' One owner writes: Selmer produced horns in batches of 33, with valve numbers running consecutively 1-99. My horn's valves are numbered 4, 5, and 6.
2. A Selmer trumpet with a serial number of 43417 was made in 1950, so as of 2013 it is 63 years old.

The serial number on a trumpet is usually found on the 2nd valvevalve casing, on the left hand side of the trumpet. Some modelsthough, have the serial number on the underside of the bell next tothe valve casings. This location is usually uncommon, as the numberis usually pressed into the valve casing.

What do the numbers 078233 on a boosey and hawks trumpet mean?

That would be the serial number which can be used to date the instrument. Your Boosey and Hawkes trumpet was made around 1964 according to that serial number.

What trumpet matches this serial number b89186?

I've traced you asking this question all over the internet and i'm afraid to say it's unlikely that you will get an answer. trumpet serial numbers are batch numbers you have to know who made the instrument before you can use the number to find out when or where the instrument was made.

Where is the serial number found on a trumpet?

The serial number on a trumpet is often on the side of the trumpet. It is usually engraved into valve casing either horizontally or vertically.

When was the Buescher dual-key trumpet with serial number 231C52 manufactured?

From what I've seen, Buescher uses only digits (not letters) in its serial numbers. Given that information, the best estimates for when this trumpet was manufactured is somewhere around 1914-1915 or 1927-1928.

When was a continental cadet trumpet with the serial number 28409 manufactured?

The Continental Cadet trumpets can not be aged based on their serial numbers. Based on the company's manufacturing periods, however, it is likely from the 1930s.

What year was Selmer trumpet serial number 48697 manufactured?

The Selmer trumpet with serial number 48697 was manufactured in 1970, according to the list in below register. http://rouses.net/trumpet/selmer.htm

How old is a selmer trumpet serial number 43417?

A Selmer trumpet with a serial number of 43417 was made in 1950, so as of 2013 it is 63 years old. All Selmer trumpets have a serial number and there is a chart that shows what year the trumpet was made.

Where can you find the model number on a trumpet?

It depends on the brand. Yamaha and Bach trumpets usually have it on the lead pipe. Serial numbers are usually on the valve casing.

What year was selmer trumpet serial number 37485?

Selmer's website has a comprehensive list of years versus serial numbers. You can check it out yourself at the link below this box. But your's falls between 1947 and 48

How do you find an old trumpet serial number?

You can find an old trumpet serial number by counter checking on this blog (check the link under the related links section).

How old is your trumpet with serial number 861748?

A serial number is meaningless without knowing the manufacturer.

The Vincent Bach Corporation is an American manufacturer of brass musical instruments that began early in the twentieth century and still exists as a subsidiary of Conn-Selmer, a division of Steinway Musical Instruments. The company was founded in 1918 by Austrian-born trumpeter Vinzenz Schrottenbach (Vincent Bach).

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Vincent Bach[edit]

Vincent Bach Trumpet Serial Numbers

Vinzenz Schrottenbach (sometimes misspelled 'Vincenz Schrotenbach') was born in Baden near Vienna in 1890^[1]. As a child he received training on violin, trumpet and bugle. By age 12 he had concentrated on the trumpet.^[2] After he graduated from Maschinenbauschule (Mechanical Engineering School, Ansbach) with an engineering degree,^[3] he entered into compulsory military service in the Imperial Navy, worked as an elevator operator, and then was re-conscripted during which time he served as a military musician in the Austrian Marine Band.

When he left the military the second time, Vincent decided to defy his family’s wishes and pursued a career as a solo cornetist touring Europe.^[4] At the outbreak of World War I, he was in England and was forced to change his name and flee to the United States in order to escape detention as an enemy alien.^[2] He resumed his career as a performer, interrupted by another term of compulsory military service, this time in the US military as a musician.^[3][5]

While Bach was on tour in Pittsburgh in 1918, a repairman destroyed his mouthpiece, and Bach began experimenting with mouthpiece repair and fabrication.^[2]

Vincent Bach Corporation[edit]

New York Period[edit]

First New York Period

• Time frame: 1918 - 1922
• Products: Mouthpieces
• Brand names: Vincent Bach
• Location: 11 East 14th Street, Selmer Music, New York, New York

Set-up shop at: 204 East 85th Street, New York, New York^[6]

• Serial Numbers: N/A

The Vincent Bach Corporation began when Vincent purchased a $300 foot-operated lathe and began producing mouthpieces in the back of the Selmer music store in New York. He established his shop across the street from the musicians' union. He ran an advertisement that read 'How to become a wizard on cornet without practicing' and accumulated $500 in orders in a short time and began his career as a manufacturer.^[2]

Second New York Period

• Time frame: 1922 - 1928
• Products: Mouthpieces, Cornets, Trumpets
• Brand names: Stradivarius, Apollo, Mercury^[6]
• Location: 237 E. 41st Street, New York, New York^[6]
• Serial Numbers: 1-1000 (approximate)

By 1922 the company incorporated,^[6] had 10 employees ^[2] and moved into a small factory at 237 E. 41st Street in New York.^[6] In 1924 Bach began producing cornets and trumpets under the Stradivarius by Vincent Bach Corporation name.^[2][7] In 1928, tenor and bass trombones were added to the product line as the company expanded and relocated.^[2]

Third New York Period

• Time frame: 1928–1953
• Products: Mouthpieces, Cornets, Trumpets, Flugelhorns, Trombones
• Brand names: Stradivarius, Apollo, Mercury,^[7] Mercedes^[6]
• Location: 621 East 216th Street, Bronx, New York^[7]
• Serial numbers: 1000 – 12,599

In October 1928 the company opened a factory in The Bronx to produce cornets, trumpets and trombones (both tenor and bass).^[2] Shortly after this move, Bach removed the “Faciebat Anno” marking from his bell engraving that had been in use since before the 100th horn, and began stamping the bells with “Model” followed by numbers for the bell mandrel and bore size. Some horns have 'New York 67' as the location on the bell and are sometimes mistaken for a '67' bell model, however 67 was the pre-zipcode postal code for the Bronx. This practice continued through most of this period. The bell mandrel number had previously appeared in Bach’s script “Vincent Bach Corporation” that has been an enduring marking on Bach horns.^[7]

The company experienced stresses, but survived the depression and expanded again afterward. During the Second World War, Bach coped with a shortage of workers and materials and, while not converted to produce war materials as many competitors were, the company cut back on production. Throughout the early years, Bach resorted to mixing parts and modifying earlier horns returned to their ownership during this period to provide requested instruments to customers. Some horns built from extra parts or reconfigured bear an X on the serial number on the second valve casing, others had a digit added to the original serial number. In some cases, the same serial number exists on another horn.^[8]

Mount Vernon Period[edit]

Selmer Bach Trumpet Serial Numbers

• Time frame: 1953–1964
• Products: Mouthpieces, Brass Instruments
• Brand names: Stradivarius, Mercury, Minerva, Mercedes^[2]
• Location: 50 South MacQuesten Parkway, Mount Vernon, New York^[6]
• Serial Numbers: 12,600 – 29,999

Over the years, the company produced several ranges of trumpets, cornets, flugelhorns and trombones, using the brand names Apollo, Minerva, Mercury, Mercedes and Stradivarius. The Vincent Bach Corporation moved in 1953 from New York City to Mount Vernon, New York. Mt. Vernon Bach horns are prized for being hand-assembled instruments.^[3][4] Mt. Vernon horns can be identified by the Bach manufacturing stamp listing Mount Vernon NY on the second valve casing along with the bore letter code and serial number.^[4] It is the instruments from this early Vincent Bach era that are still the sought-after trumpets with the new modern version being similar but not the same quality.

Elkhart Period[edit]

• Time frame: 1965 – present
• Products: Mouthpieces, Brass Instruments
• Brand names: Stradivarius, Bundy(Selmer name no longer used), Bach
• Location: 600 Industrial Parkway, Elkhart, Indiana^[6]
• Serial Numbers: 30,000 -

In 1961 Vincent Bach was 71 and the company was acquired that year by The Selmer Company, with Bach staying on as a consultant^[9] and continuing to work until at least 1974.^[10] Bach accepted the bid from Selmer even though some others of the 13 which he received were higher.^[2] It is believed that Vincent Bach continued customizing a small number of horns at the old Mt. Vernon facility for special customers.^[11]

The bulk of tooling, along with many parts and assembled horns, were relocated to a former Buescher plant on Main Street in Elkhart Indiana where production started in January of 1965. Less than a decade later, production moved again to a Conn factory belonging to the Selmer Company on Industrial Drive in Elkhart, alongside of which the Conn-Selmer corporate offices are located presently.^[2][4] The Bach line of brass instruments continues to be made in Elkhart, Indiana, using the same blueprints and the same techniques as the originals. They are sold as a premium brand under the name “Bach Stradivarius” as well as the student line “Bach” horns, manufactured in Eastlake Ohio.^[12]

Strike[edit]

On 1 April 2006, workers at the Bach plant in Elkhart began a strike that lasted three years.^[13] The main issues were the union's desire to preserve employee compensation and company's goals to increase product quality. Production was interrupted until the company hired replacement workers, and roughly a third of the strikers returned to work.^[14][15] The strike ended when workers voted to dissolve the relationship between the company and the United Auto Workers union.

References[edit]

1. ^Tarr, E.H., 2003. East meets west: the Russian trumpet tradition from the time of Peter the Great to the October Revolution, with a lexicon of trumpeters active in Russia from the seventeenth century to the twentieth (No. 4). Pendragon Press.
2. ^ ^abcdefghijkPriestley, Brian, Dave Gelly, Tony Bacon, The sax & brass book, MIller Freeman Books, San Francisco, CA, 1998, p. 1970
3. ^ ^abcHistory of Bach StradivariusArchived 2009-11-30 at the Wayback Machine
4. ^ ^abcdHempley, Roy & Lehrer, Doug, Play it again Mr. Bach, 2002, Bachology essay at http://www.bachbrass.com/bachology/article.php?uid=4 retrieved 5/31/2011
5. ^Note: Bach served in the same field artillery regiment credited with bringing the 'Cassion Song' to John Philip Sousa in 1917. The result, 'The Caisson Song,' would become the official U.S. Armymarch, 'The Army Goes Rolling Along.' See http://skyways.lib.ks.us/orgs/mcb/Library/M0126.htmArchived 2007-02-11 at the Wayback Machine
6. ^ ^abcdefghBachLoyalist.com Timeline of the Vincent Bach Corporation and Serial Number List at http://www.bachloyalist.com/serials/serial_trumpet.htm retrieved 6/2/2011
7. ^ ^abcdHempley, Roy and Lehrer, Doug, New York Bach Stradivarius Trumpet and Cornet Bell Markings, 2004, Bachology essay at http://www.bachbrass.com/bachology/article.php?uid=1 retrieved 5/31/2011
8. ^Hempley, Roy and Lehrer, Doug, Bach’s X Horns, 2001, Bachology essay at http://www.bachbrass.com/bachology/article.php?uid=2 retrieved 5/31/2011
9. ^Dundas, Richard, 20th Century Brass Musical Instruments in the United States, p. 5
10. ^Pavlakis, Christopher, The American music handbook, The Free Press, Calhun Publishing, 1974, p. 655
11. ^Hempley, Roy and Lehrer, Doug, Bach’s Bugles, 2004, Bachology essay at http://www.bachbrass.com/bachology/article.php?uid=7 retrieved 5/31/2011
12. ^Vincent Bach website http://www.bachbrass.com/ retrieved 5/28/2019
13. ^Conroy, Tommy (5 August 2009). 'Conn-Selmer strike ends'. South Bend Tribune (Indiana). Retrieved 23 July 2010.
14. ^Marilyn, Odendahl (05 August 2009). 'Three years later, the Vincent Bach strike -- and the union -- ends quietlyArchived 2011-07-18 at the Wayback Machine '. The Elkhart Truth
15. ^Stuckey, Mike (12 April 2010). 'Little sympathy, but much at stake for strikers'. eTruth. Retrieved 25 May 2011.

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